Going lightweight inevitably means that at one point you're going to think about the shoes you're wearing. I was wearing German Army boots for much of my backpacking career before going lightweight, always with the same problem: usually getting blisters, in winter getting soaking wet boots which would freeze over night, and in summer getting wet boots which won't dry over night. I still have a pair of Timberland half boots, which I bought in 2000 in Honduras, those would need to get a little help from a shoemaker but are otherwise very good shoes - I walked from Costa Rico till Mexico in these shoes, so I have a lot of memories with them.

German army boots drying by the fire, April 2009 @ Helvetinjärvi National Park.
I was familiar with trailrunning shoes, as I wore them when jogging. New Balance and Adidas were usually the shoes I wore, and I was happy with them for their purpose of trail running. So how would they work on the trail when backpacking?
As I was living in Spain last year, I bought a pair of Adidas Supernova Riot. I used them for running in the park, and also for some excursions into the mountains around Valencia. They worked perfect. I decided to try them as well in Finland, and I would have wished I would have been wearing them already on my Easter hike in Helvetinjärvi NP, where I still wore the aforementioned German Army boots (1000 g they weigh, per boot!). On my next trip in Isojärvi I wore the Supernova, and I had no problems covering the large distances, had no blisters, and the shoes dried quickly when they got wet. Also I was able to cover more kilometers, and my feet and legs never got super-tired; neither where there problems with twisting my ankle or anything similar - my feet are free to move like they were intended to, and muscles were getting stronger. From then on, I was only wearing the Supernova, and covered many kilometers with them. They have a great grip, also on wet surfaces, are light at 745 g and are available virtually everywhere.

Adidas Supernova Riot.
With Winter coming up I decided to keep walking in lightweight footwear, although some changes will be made. The Backpackinglight.com article on Lightweight Footwear Systems for Snow Travel, which comes in three parts, was an excellent introduction to the topic and described the basics and techniques way better than I could, so please have a read. Well informed, I decided for that the winter I will continue using unlined trailrunners. I'll be walking in a pair of Adidas Supernova Riot 2, the successor of the shoe I have been using since last year, in a slightly bigger size to accommodate liner socks, thicker merino socks and GoreTex socks, with options on a vapour barrier liner sock and neoprene sock if I get really cold feet. They weigh 710 g, so Adidas was able to shave some weight off the shoe but keep them as comfortable and grippy as its predecessor. Here in Finland I have seen them at Intersport and similar stores, and I reckon your running shop of choice would not have a problem with ordering them for you.

The Adidas Supernova Riot 2.
Together with new shoes came new socks. Its fascinating how much socks can change your experience from a terrible one (wet, cold feet with blisters) to a splendid one (dry, relaxed feet without blisters). Previously yours truly had cotton socks and German Army socks, but I can tell you, after experiencing the pleasure of walking (and sleeping) in merino socks I wouldn't go anywhere near other socks. Merino has the ability to be still warming when damp/ wet, which is a very useful ability for a backpacker's sock as he tends to get sweaty feet. Thanks to merino it usually also doesn't smell as bad (if at all). I use socks from Woolpower and Smartwool, both are equally awesome and I can recommend them if you want to do something good for your feet. In Finland you get them at Partioaitta, Partiovaruste and Retkiaitta. I use liner socks from the same companies, just check that they're made from Coolmax or a similar material and you're fine.
Because I use unlined shoes, and I don't like to get wet feet, I bought a pair of Trekmates Amphibian GoreTex socks. I bought them from Amazon.co.uk though I saw that Ultralight Outdoor Gear now also has them in stock. These come on when its raining or when I walk through wet terrain, and in the next coming months snow. Excellent they are, keeping my feet warm and dry. It feels funny if you walk and you're sure you got wet feet, but nope, they're dry. If you walk with unlined shoes, I would recommend you to get a pair of these.

Socks! Smartwool Hiking Mid sock 96 g, Woolpower 400 socks 72 g, Trekmates Amphibian GoreTex socks 73 g.
So, that's my socks and footwear. In the coming months I will be getting a pair of Inov-8 Roclite 295 which should be even lighter than the current shoes. For winter I am additionally looking for a pair of gaiters, VBL socks and/ or neoprene socks to accompany the Inov-8s. So, which shoes and socks are you wearing when your out on the trail?
Going lightweight inevitably means that at one point you're going to think about the shoes you're wearing. I was wearing German Army boots for much of my backpacking career before going lightweight, always with the same problem: usually getting blisters, in winter getting soaking wet boots which would freeze over night, and in summer getting wet boots which won't dry over night. I still have a pair of Timberland half boots, which I bought in 2000 in Honduras, those would need to get a little help from a shoemaker but are otherwise very good shoes - I walked from Costa Rico till Mexico in these shoes, so I have a lot of memories with them.

German army boots drying by the fire, April 2009 @ Helvetinjärvi National Park.
I was familiar with trailrunning shoes, as I wore them when jogging. New Balance and Adidas were usually the shoes I wore, and I was happy with them for their purpose of trail running. So how would they work on the trail when backpacking?
As I was living in Spain last year, I bought a pair of Adidas Supernova Riot. I used them for running in the park, and also for some excursions into the mountains around Valencia. They worked perfect. I decided to try them as well in Finland, and I would have wished I would have been wearing them already on my Easter hike in Helvetinjärvi NP, where I still wore the aforementioned German Army boots (1000 g they weigh, per boot!). On my next trip in Isojärvi I wore the Supernova, and I had no problems covering the large distances, had no blisters, and the shoes dried quickly when they got wet. Also I was able to cover more kilometers, and my feet and legs never got super-tired; neither where there problems with twisting my ankle or anything similar - my feet are free to move like they were intended to, and muscles were getting stronger. From then on, I was only wearing the Supernova, and covered many kilometers with them. They have a great grip, also on wet surfaces, are light at 745 g and are available virtually everywhere.

Adidas Supernova Riot.
With Winter coming up I decided to keep walking in lightweight footwear, although some changes will be made. The Backpackinglight.com article on Lightweight Footwear Systems for Snow Travel, which comes in three parts, was an excellent introduction to the topic and described the basics and techniques way better than I could, so please have a read. Well informed, I decided for that the winter I will continue using unlined trailrunners. I'll be walking in a pair of Adidas Supernova Riot 2, the successor of the shoe I have been using since last year, in a slightly bigger size to accommodate liner socks, thicker merino socks and GoreTex socks, with options on a vapour barrier liner sock and neoprene sock if I get really cold feet. They weigh 710 g, so Adidas was able to shave some weight off the shoe but keep them as comfortable and grippy as its predecessor. Here in Finland I have seen them at Intersport and similar stores, and I reckon your running shop of choice would not have a problem with ordering them for you.

The Adidas Supernova Riot 2.
Together with new shoes came new socks. Its fascinating how much socks can change your experience from a terrible one (wet, cold feet with blisters) to a splendid one (dry, relaxed feet without blisters). Previously yours truly had cotton socks and German Army socks, but I can tell you, after experiencing the pleasure of walking (and sleeping) in merino socks I wouldn't go anywhere near other socks. Merino has the ability to be still warming when damp/ wet, which is a very useful ability for a backpacker's sock as he tends to get sweaty feet. Thanks to merino it usually also doesn't smell as bad (if at all). I use socks from Woolpower and Smartwool, both are equally awesome and I can recommend them if you want to do something good for your feet. In Finland you get them at Partioaitta, Partiovaruste and Retkiaitta. I use liner socks from the same companies, just check that they're made from Coolmax or a similar material and you're fine.
Because I use unlined shoes, and I don't like to get wet feet, I bought a pair of Trekmates Amphibian GoreTex socks. I bought them from Amazon.co.uk though I saw that Ultralight Outdoor Gear now also has them in stock. These come on when its raining or when I walk through wet terrain, and in the next coming months snow. Excellent they are, keeping my feet warm and dry. It feels funny if you walk and you're sure you got wet feet, but nope, they're dry. If you walk with unlined shoes, I would recommend you to get a pair of these.

Socks! Smartwool Hiking Mid sock 96 g, Woolpower 400 socks 72 g, Trekmates Amphibian GoreTex socks 73 g.
So, that's my socks and footwear. In the coming months I will be getting a pair of Inov-8 Roclite 295 which should be even lighter than the current shoes. For winter I am additionally looking for a pair of gaiters, VBL socks and/ or neoprene socks to accompany the Inov-8s. So, which shoes and socks are you wearing when your out on the trail?
Gear Talk: Socks and Footwear
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ReplyDeletei also use smartwool socks. they're very great. an i've got some pairs of falke tk2 and tk4.
i use salomon xa pro 3d gtx trail running shoes and some heavy mindel vakumm lite gtx
the trekmates looks very interesting.
i have already see these socks in your gear list.
Does these socks feel good at your feet??.
Gaiters are a goog option. when i wear my salomon i use the inov-8 gaiters
The 295's are good and I have got on well with them. Trust me on this one when I say the 310 are amazing and my no 1 choice. Just got a new pair of them, The Amphibians are brilliant and proving their worth with many a mile this year keeping my feet dry and warm.
ReplyDeleteI've been using a pair of Inov-8 315s. They have performed nicely. They have maybe 120+km behind them and there will be about 40km more next weekend. Only problem is that I'd need a bit more arc support (these give none) and get sore feet when running beacause the lack of it (my diagnose). So I should get new insoles. Insoles in Inov-8 have to be very thin in my experience because then the heel will fit more snuggly. One problem is that they are not that durable (most likely because they are so light), you can already see some wear in them...
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone have a good idea for insoles? I think 3-5mm thick and stiff with medium arch support. Maybe even heat moldable?
I've also been using Inov-8 Debris gaiters. They are light and have been fine for keeping stuff out from shoes. I would recommend.
For socks I've been using Inov-8 22 socks. They are light because they are short, but still long enough to avoid any abrasion. They are also quite thick. I have not had any need for liner socks (But I still use them in boots) because the shoe fits so well. For winter a thicker sock or two socks would be nice. I haven't used neoprene or Goretex socks (though I have Sealzskin ones) because I have had no need for them. I would advice to give a try in warmer time of the year. Your feets get wet but thats no problem if the shoe fits well and you get your feet dry at least for night time.
Next weekend I'll see how my system performs in cold and wet. There might even be some snow...
I've been using the Aku Stone XCRs this year, and am very impressed. 820g, so a little heavier than the Supernova Riots, but the waterproofing is excellent. The profile is more that of a climbing shoe than a running shoe, which is just great when you hit something more vertical. They work fine down to freezing with a mid-weight SmartWool sock.
ReplyDeleteHow soon will you update your blog? I’m interested in reading some more information on this issue.
ReplyDeleteMats Lundkvist
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Benjamin, the Trekmates feel just fine when you wear them, as you wear them over your normal sock (at least I do). Get a pair, they usually sell out quickly.
ReplyDeleteMartin, the 310s look brilliant as well. I think Inov 8 makes a whole lot of excellent shoes for us lightweight backpackers, and its difficult to choose the right shoe =) I agree on the Amphibians, thank you again for guiding me to Amazon to find them there!
Lightening up, I think Inov-8 themselves makes 3 mm insoles, maybe these could help? I think I should get the Inov-8 gaiters as well, now that you mention them.
Chris, the only Aku I know is Aku, the Shape Shifting Master of Darkness! For your excursions you need a climbing profile, as you seem to go more vertical. Smartwool socks seem to be a favourite of many!
Mats, hopefully tomorrow! However, the article isn't lost, it just goes further down where you can still read it.
Unofortunately the Inov-8 3mm insoles are more like a 3mm thick pieces of neoprene-like material cut to the shape than "real insoles". With them the heel fits better (because the shoes have more volume with thinner insoles than the original 6mm insoles) but they lack completely the arch support.
ReplyDeleteI've been thinking about something like Superfeet insoles (www.superfeet.com) but I don't know how thick those are. Well, have to check out the local running shop for better insoles...
I converted to trail shoes a year and a half ago. Wearing various ones with Smartwool socks. I've also used Seal skinz but I like the fact that the Trekmates are a better option (they are on my to buy list!) I use Superfeet in soles to help with my slightly pronated feet.
ReplyDeleteMy current pair of trail shoes are Inov8 Roclite 315's the tread on these are seriously grippy.
I've worn boots once this year and really noticed how hard it was to walk in them so I wont be going back. BTW does anyone want to buy a pair of Meindl softline light boots used twice size 10UK :)
goretex socks are something I dont wear. I either grin and bear it with normal wool blend socks most of the year or use a goretex shoe in the depths of winter. I might be persuaded to try some this winter though
ReplyDeleteInov-8s are brilliant in my eyes. I used a pair of 315s while on the Ulster Way and got 300 miles out of them before the heavy road walking killed them. As long as you avoid the roads Inov-8s will take you for miles, for me their grip and comfort outweighs the issue of durability, (not very "eco friendly", mind)
ReplyDeleteThe amphibians are a good unit, I don't mind getting wet feet, but if you're on a multi day trek they can be a lifesaver. Putting wet shoes on in the morning and instantly soaking your previously dry socks can also be a thing of the past. I was certain I would get rubbing due to the excess fabric, but have been very impressed with them. Rocky gor-tex socks have a firm following on Outdoors-magic, however have became as rare as hen's teeth!
Lightening up, those superfeet insoles look good! Maybe ask Baz if he can measure them and let you know?
ReplyDeleteBaz, I don't think that Meindl useres are frequenting here! Nice shoe and sock setup you have. I heard from various sources that the Trekmates GoreTex socks should be better than the SealSkinz, so I went for them straight.
Dave, I like some GoreTex socks because if a GoreTex shoe gets wet, it needs quite some time to dry up again. No such problem with unlined shoes and GoreTex socks,
Keith, I'm eagerly awaiting my Inov-8s, and am sure that I will be not disappointed. I read that you can get between 800 and 1000 km of a pair if you use them on the trail, which I find reasonable if you compare sustainable vs grip & comfort.
Those Trekmates look interesting, Hendrik. I read somewhere recently that Rocky Goretex socks might be appearing in the UK again.
ReplyDeleteSteve, I read on BPL.com that the Rocky GoreTex socks won't be produced again. Mike Reid was in contact with GoreTex affirmed that Rocky won't be producing those socks again. Which is sad, as they are believed to be the best ones. If you're able to get a pair somewhere, grab them.
ReplyDeleteThis weekend I took Inov-8 315's to a 60km walk on trails with about 14kg Golite Jam2 on my back. There was about 5cm of wet snow on the ground, the temperature was around +2C on daytime and it was cloudy. I took a nice 41km hiking day yesterday (yes, my legs feel "a bit used" but my feets are ok).
ReplyDeleteMy feets were constantly wet since there was wet snow all over and I was using only Inov-8 22 socks and debris gaiters. That didn't matter a bit! I was very suprised since my feet are often cold and I get blisters occasionally. But now my feet stayed warm (while walking) and in perfect condition!
I think that's because of the light trail runners instead of heavy boots. (Though my friend walked in his Meindls with heavier back without problems.) If we would have slept in tarp instead of cabins (wich were really nice) my feet would have most likely get cold and I would have spent the evening sitting in my sleeping bag.
Only minus is that my Inov-8's are wearing out! There's hole in the lining of the heel area after only about 200km of running and hiking! I think the 800km to 1000km lifetime is higly over estimated. Maybe some 500km would be close to reality...
My Inov-8s arrived today, and they fit like a glove. Going for a walk on Pyynikki now, to test them out =) And I do hope that they hold for some 800 to 1000 km.
ReplyDeleteHi Hendrik,
ReplyDeletesorry for digging out this older entry of yours.
I'm thinking of geting a pair of Trekmates Goretex socks and was wondering about the sizing. As you wear them over your normal socks, did you get them in your regular size or one size up? I'm especially thinking of wearing them in winter with thicker socks, so going a size up would probably be smart, but I don't want the socks to be too large for summer either.
What would your recommendation be?
Thanks in advance,
Ilka
Hi Ilka, no worries about "digging" something up =)
ReplyDeleteI got them in my normal size, but if I remember correctly they only have three sizes, and I took Medium - I have a 41/ 42 size in shoes, and the Trekmates are thus a bit bigger to accommodate a sock worn underneath it. I reckon I could easily wear two pair of socks and still put the Trekmates on, but usually only wear one pair. So depending on your show size, take that option, then you should be fine for both summer and winter! Have fun!
Thanks Hendrik.
ReplyDeleteWe have about the same shoe size, so I'll get the Medium as well. I'm really looking forward to trying them out over Christmas Break.
Hi Hendrick,
ReplyDeleteAs you mentioned, socks are as important as good shoes. I'm personnaly using X-Socks for the last few years, and can't find anything near it in term of comfort. They don't smell (you can walk with it for days, all day long, and they won't smell, no matter what shoes you wear), no blisters, dry feet etc. They are also very resistent, I handwashed them many times, using a brush, scrashing them etc, and they still have their tight shape. They are expensive indeed, but they last for ever it seems. I never thought Hi-Tech socks could exist. They do, and they really improved my pleasure hiking long distances. http://www.x-socks.com/#/en/
I will have an upcoming post on socks, funnily enough I haven't used X-Socks yet, but a whole bunch of other ones - maybe I should try the X-Socks as well, they sound great =)
ReplyDeleteWell, I'll be curious to read your review/comparison if some day you do try them indeed. ;)
ReplyDeleteLooking at the inov-8 for a good trail shoe. Do you still recommend the 315s? And do they run pretty true to size?
ReplyDeleteThanks
Travis
The 330s look pretty solid too. I am hiking the JMT in California this year and will have a 25 to 30 lb pack at times. What is your recommendation.
ReplyDeleteThanks,
Travis
Travis, while I can't see your comment here (in which browser on what device did you comment?), I can recommend any of the shoes from Inov-8. I now have used the Roclites 295s and 312s, Mudclaw 330, and Oroc 280. My favourite of these is the Roclite 295, but I am pondering over the Bare Grip 200 and X-Talon 190. If you already use trailrunners for hiking, any of these should be fine for your JMT hike. Let me know if you have more questions!
ReplyDeleteI will also try the X-Socks. Your reports have convinced me.http://www.unterwegs.biz/
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