Optimus Crux Lite Solo Cook System - Passaround

Yesterday I went to the post to pick up a small package from Optimus, in it the tiny new Optimus Crux Lite Solo Cook System. This set is completely new for 2010 and will be my first dabbling in gas stoves. No, I will not leave my beloved wood burning stoves behind, but in winter I find, with the cold I am even more eager to get something hot inside my mouth and thus a gas stove will not only add speed, but also convenience - I do not need to collect wood and get right down to the business of melting snow and boiling water for food.


A nice small box, full of win.

Lets get down to the most important thing first: Weight. The whole set is 269 g, and the separate weights are as follows:

- Mesh bag: 12 g
- Crux Lite: 74 g
- Crux Lite bag: 7 g
- Sauce pan: 122 g
- Fry pan: 54 g

The Crux Lite promises to be stable for the pots and would even give me the opportunity to simmer food rather easily. The sauce pan has a pouring lip and you can fit in 600 ml of liquid, that's plenty for a meal and a cuppa. The frying pan allows me to make eggs with bacon on the trail and be the envy of every other hiker, or, more likely, will be the lid for the bigger pan. The whole set packs small (13 cm high and around 11 cm in diameter if you need to know) and also fits a 110 g cartridge inside it, together with the Crux Lite and a folding spoon if that's what you use. The green plastic handles ensure you don't burn your fingers, so you don't need to use gloves. Nifty, and I love the colour.

You know unboxing photo sets of gadgets? Well, what follows is the unboxing and putting together photo set of the Optimus Crux Lite Solo Cook System, a new stage in nerdiness brought to UL backpacking =)


In its mesh bag.


Without the mesh bag, the suspense rises.


Frying pan, sauce pan and the Crux Lite, ready for action.

I can't yet tell you anything more about the Crux Lite and how it performs, as its not advised to use it inside and with the slush on the streets and the slush coming down from heaven I wasn't able to try it out yet. And that's where you come in. I will organize a Passaround of the Crux Lite Solo Cook System, and you yourself get to test it. Curious? Then read on.



Instead of me doing my usual routine I'd like to pass the Crux Lite set around to five different readers and have them test it. If you're a total newbie to gas stoves like me or a seasoned veteran, anyone can apply for a test of the set. So how does this work? I send out the set to the first reader, and he gets to play around with it for two weeks. You need to have access to gas cartridges (I can't send those) and you need to be willing to pay the postage to send it to the next person, but besides that its completely free to you and allows you to test the stove without shelling out the money first. After your two weeks of playing you send the set forward to the next in line, and drop me a short email about what you thought of the set, which will be published here on the blog. In that way we can collect different viewpoints on the Optimus Crux Lite Solo set, and get a nice review together.

You want to take part in the Passaround? Great! What you need to do is leave a comment underneath (preferrably not anonymous), and next week Monday (8th of March) around noon I will randomly pick the five people who get to test the Crux Lite Solo set. While I'd love to have this Passaround open to everyone, sending packages, even small ones like these, is expensive, so I'd would like to limit it to Scandinavia and the Baltics as that keeps the costs for those involved low (except someone wants to share the postage to them if living outside of that area, then you're welcome to comment as well). Before you hit the comment button, I'd like to remember you - you should be able to get a gas cartridge for the test in your town, you need to be willing to pay the shipping costs to the next person, and you're fine with sending me a short statement of your opinion, possibly with a photo or two. So, now off you go!

21 Questions, comments, observations:

  1. Count me in Hendrik.

    Pssst! Your table cloth is giving me a headache! It's like one of those Magic Eye pictures ;-)
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  2. I used to be solo hiker and on those days, I often felt frustrated when people were talking about Trangia 25 series and other similar stuff that is designed for 2+ people.
    Nowadays, I mostly hike in group of two and for that kind of use, these pots are bit small. Nowdays we usually use two pots: one for cooking tea water, etc. and other one for actually making food.
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  3. Gaskocher sind nicht gerade optimal für den Winter ;-)
    Wie war noch gleich die Regel? Unter 5 Grad (?!?) und ein Gaskocher verliert an Leistung. Kannst Dich ja mal bei ODS in das Thema einlesen.
    Für den finnischen Winter dürfte der Optimus wohl eine Fehlinvestition gewesen sein. Trotzdem der Optimus Crux Lite ist ein feines Teil, aber nicht meine erste Wahl.

    Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland

    Christian
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  4. Here. If I can get it before March 18th I can test it in California for ~10 days. Otherwise After April 1st in good old Germany...
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  5. I would be interested in knowing how you guys get on with the system at low temperatures (how much time you get out of each one, how much water you can boil or snow you can melt).

    Love the idea of a Passaround, by the way, very inventive!
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  6. I think this sounds like a fun idea, I'd love to take part. I live in Stockholm, and wouldn't mind trying something lighter than my primus omnifuel. Will be doing some camping in a few weeks with a couple of my German-Doctor invandrare kompisar.

    Deutsche in Skandinavien können nicht genug zelten gehen :)
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  7. I think I'm a bit too far out of the way for the Passaround (Pittsburgh, US), but this is great idea! Really ingenious, and I look forward to seeing the result. In the hipster vernacular, you've just "crowdsourced" product testing. :)
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  8. It wil make a nice review for my new blog!
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  9. Lightening up...Mar 3, 2010 07:15 AM
    An idea popped into my head...

    A Finnish outdoor magazine Retki (and possibly also the fishing oriented Erä) stated that you'd loose the weight advantage that you can get by using titanium cookware in fuel weight because of the lower heat transfer rate of titanium (while compared to aluminium). and in the end the aluminium cooking kit might be even lighter (with all the fuel needed for the trip)?

    And here would be a nice change to test this. The pot that comes with Optimus set is aluminium, right? And I think that most of us gram freaks have accurate scale? And quite many of us have also some titanium cookware?

    So would it be possible to test the fuel consumption (in grams per amount of water boiled) bethween the standard aluminium pot and titanium pots? So first weighting the full canister, then boiling a titanium potfull of water and weighting again, and then an aluminium potfull of water and weighting the canister and maybe repeating this time or two. This should of course be done in constant conditions.

    Hendrik, would this be possible?
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  10. @lightening up:
    While UL hikers don't generally love Trangia, you can find some interesting statistics from http://www.ultralight-hiking.com/stoves-trangia.html
    It has interesting (aluminium vs. titanium) timing information like 7:10 vs. 8:40 and 11:50 vs. 14:00. If these calculations really mean that you use about 20% more fuel on titanium than aluminium, you can start calculating where the weight from extra fuel weights more than the weight savings you get from lighter stove.
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  11. Joe, I like my table cloth =)

    Juha, its a Solo System ;) They also do make bigger pots. Normally I only use one pot, for both tea/ coffee water and food. And thanks for the interesting link!

    Christian, bei ODS lese ich nicht mehr mit, das ist mir zu Anstrengend. Anyhow, Gaskocher funktionieren auch im Winter sehr gut, wenn man weiss wie; zB Gaskartusche am Körper aufwärmen, und nicht auf dem Eis kochen =) Beim Jonas hat das ganz gut geklappt, auch bei -15°C.

    Chris, thanks! I'll try to measure it when I test it, and remind the other folks of it as well.

    Tomas, sounds good! Viel Spaß mit den Deutschen!

    Thanks Devin, that made me chuckle - crowdsourced product testing, genius!

    Lightening Up, you could do that if you want!? Was that your "application"?
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  12. That's a great way to Try before you buy. I havn't come across this idea before. I Look forward to reading the reviews as i was going to get one of these.
    It would be my first gas stove, as i always use meths. -Alan
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  13. Would that pot set hold a 123r climber model white gas stove?
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  14. Paul, I'm not sure. Is this what you mean by a 123r climber model white gas stove:

    http://www.trailspace.com/gear/optimus/climber-svea-123r/ ??

    I don't own such a stove, but if you can give me its measurements, I can check.
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  15. Paul, I'm not sure. Is this what you mean by a 123r climber model white gas stove:

    http://www.trailspace.com/gear/optimus/climber-svea-123r/ ??

    I don't own such a stove, but if you can give me its measurements, I can check.
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  16. That's a great way to Try before you buy. I havn't come across this idea before. I Look forward to reading the reviews as i was going to get one of these.
    It would be my first gas stove, as i always use meths. -Alan
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  17. It wil make a nice review for my new blog!
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  18. @lightening up:
    While UL hikers don't generally love Trangia, you can find some interesting statistics from http://www.ultralight-hiking.com/stoves-trangia.html
    It has interesting (aluminium vs. titanium) timing information like 7:10 vs. 8:40 and 11:50 vs. 14:00. If these calculations really mean that you use about 20% more fuel on titanium than aluminium, you can start calculating where the weight from extra fuel weights more than the weight savings you get from lighter stove.
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  19. Gaskocher sind nicht gerade optimal für den Winter ;-)
    Wie war noch gleich die Regel? Unter 5 Grad (?!?) und ein Gaskocher verliert an Leistung. Kannst Dich ja mal bei ODS in das Thema einlesen.
    Für den finnischen Winter dürfte der Optimus wohl eine Fehlinvestition gewesen sein. Trotzdem der Optimus Crux Lite ist ein feines Teil, aber nicht meine erste Wahl.

    Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland

    Christian
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  20. I used to be solo hiker and on those days, I often felt frustrated when people were talking about Trangia 25 series and other similar stuff that is designed for 2+ people.
    Nowadays, I mostly hike in group of two and for that kind of use, these pots are bit small. Nowdays we usually use two pots: one for cooking tea water, etc. and other one for actually making food.
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