I recently received a new alcohol stove from Japan, a wonderful little masterpiece.
Closed stove and pot stand.
I'm not too much of an alcohol stove user, as I prefer wood (
Backcountry Boiler, anyone?). However, I was so intrigued by this stove that I decided to buy one and rekindle my interest in alcohol stoves.
It is a carbon felt stove, and the flame can be extinguished and then the rest of the alcohol can be safely transported in the stove - that is something which remembers me of my Trangia from earlier days. Very nice and useful, a reason for me to get it.
The four parts of the stove.
The craftsmanship is superb, as you would expect from something from Japan, as I also say in the video. A lovely little unit, and at 53 g together a pretty light setup. A windscreen, like the Clikstand Ti windscreen, would add 21 g to this, though apparently there's even lighter ones around.
Outside, at 5°C ambient temperature, and a slight wind, and 500 ml of water, I estimate the time till a rolling boil will be around 12 minutes - less if you use a windscreen (I stopped after 10 minutes and as the first bubbles started to rise - I had to get home for dinner =). Testing it in my kitchen I had a rolling boil (600 ml this time) after 7 minutes 45 seconds, this is respectable. I'm never in a hurry when hiking, and don't mind waiting for a while to get my water - enjoying the scenery, having a chat or being are good things to do while waiting for the water to boil.
In my kitchen test the stove was burning for well over 20 minutes with the circa 25 ml of alcohol I poured in it, pretty nice. Thus if you actually cook on the trail, then this could be a good tool for you, as in my tests so far it is pretty fuel efficient.
Watch the Youtube HD video here.
This are only my initial impression with this great little stove, I'm looking forward to taking it out to the trail and see how it performs there.
Moonlight Gear sells Sanpo's CF Stove if you want one. Google translate is your friend ;)
I recently received a new alcohol stove from Japan, a wonderful little masterpiece.
Closed stove and pot stand.
I'm not too much of an alcohol stove user, as I prefer wood (
Backcountry Boiler, anyone?). However, I was so intrigued by this stove that I decided to buy one and rekindle my interest in alcohol stoves.
It is a carbon felt stove, and the flame can be extinguished and then the rest of the alcohol can be safely transported in the stove - that is something which remembers me of my Trangia from earlier days. Very nice and useful, a reason for me to get it.
The four parts of the stove.
The craftsmanship is superb, as you would expect from something from Japan, as I also say in the video. A lovely little unit, and at 53 g together a pretty light setup. A windscreen, like the Clikstand Ti windscreen, would add 21 g to this, though apparently there's even lighter ones around.
Outside, at 5°C ambient temperature, and a slight wind, and 500 ml of water, I estimate the time till a rolling boil will be around 12 minutes - less if you use a windscreen (I stopped after 10 minutes and as the first bubbles started to rise - I had to get home for dinner =). Testing it in my kitchen I had a rolling boil (600 ml this time) after 7 minutes 45 seconds, this is respectable. I'm never in a hurry when hiking, and don't mind waiting for a while to get my water - enjoying the scenery, having a chat or being are good things to do while waiting for the water to boil.
In my kitchen test the stove was burning for well over 20 minutes with the circa 25 ml of alcohol I poured in it, pretty nice. Thus if you actually cook on the trail, then this could be a good tool for you, as in my tests so far it is pretty fuel efficient.
Watch the Youtube HD video here.
This are only my initial impression with this great little stove, I'm looking forward to taking it out to the trail and see how it performs there.
Moonlight Gear sells Sanpo's CF Stove if you want one. Google translate is your friend ;)
Sanpo's CF Stove - A First Look
Tiny o_O Can't wait to hear more field testing reports about this one. I'm probably right in my assumption that the whole thing fits nicely inside of the pot? This might be possible challenger for the Caldera Sidewinder I've been thinking about. Now quick, test it some more and share the love! :D
ReplyDeleteWhile 0.5l is probably enough for solo hiker to warm his meal, it is pretty small for two people or small family.
ReplyDeleteWith this in mind, it would be interesting to read how boiling times increate, when we have something like 1.5l kettle with 1l water with pasta or something else in it.
Of course, one option when traveling in packs, is that each person has his/her own little kettle and stove, shelter (tent, hammock, etc.), but usually people try to cut down the weight by going from two solo tents to one that is big enough for both and so on.
That's a very snazzy-looking stove! I've been somewhat spoiled by my miniature Caldera Cone's light weight, but I'm always telling myself I'll try out other stoves at some point. That one will certainly go on my list of things to check out.
ReplyDeleteThat video is hysterical....
ReplyDeleteThanks Jolly =)
ReplyDeleteMiniature Caldera Cone? Is that a new one I haven't heard of? Maybe you have a link for me/ us?
ReplyDeleteHei Kika, fits in there with plenty of room to spare! Nice pot as well, that Evernew one, good size for up to two people. I shall continue testing asap!
ReplyDeleteHei Juha, I usually hike by myself or in a group with other people - so usually using own gear all the time. This is of course not very much in the thought of UL, because you could save weight while sharing gear. Anyway.
ReplyDeleteA small family probably also could use this stove with a bigger pot. My biggest pot is 1,4 l, I might try that in the future to simulate what a small family might use and how long it takes.
OMFG you forgot your camera!!!!!11
ReplyDeleteHello everybody. I'm sanpo, the Stove builder of this stove. Please let me do the supplementation explanation of this stove. Because the manual was Japanese, I think that there was a thing that doesn't understand in him in a detailed part.
ReplyDeleteThis stove can adjust thermal power.
It is possible to adjust it by improving the wire on CF up by one stage in three stages (maximum thermal power, a medium flame, and minimum thermal power).
The position of CF by which Mr.Hendrik does the ignition test hits minimum thermal power.
It is possible to boil 500ml by maximum thermal power in the indoor measurement at about 7 min when water is boiled.
If it is 400ml of the amount that becomes the standard of UL, even boils are about 5 min 30 sec.
It burns for minimum thermal power with the fuel of 2oz 20 min more continuously in the laboratory experiment and it is confirmed to boil the water of 2L.
Because the wind and the temperature are controlled as for an alcoholic stove when using it outside as known, it is not the above-mentioned.
However, it was possible to use it enough by the mountain of winter in Japan under the temperature of -8℃.
Thank you for being interested in this stove.
Now that's a very cool looking little stove.
ReplyDeleteI really like the fact that it's possible to keep unburnt fuel safe in the burner by putting a screw lid on it.
But , Hendrik, I shudder and cringe every time I see you pulling sparks from your firesteel with the cutting edge of your knife.
And to do it in exactly the place on the blade where it needs a sharp edge the most...
/ Karl
Karl, I know how to sharp a knife ;) Forgot to do the mod on the knife I had planned last weekend, might need thus to do it this way a bit longer!
ReplyDeleteso now you are an actor?
ReplyDeleteHendrik,
ReplyDeleteNice little stove you have there. Like the new direction of your recent gear videos.
Very entertaining.
I keep looking for men in trench coats looking to sell black market camping stoves. :)
Yeah and I've also been thinking about the Evernew pot and good to hear that it should be good for two people since I've had some hard time deciding the perfect size. Aaah, this all makes me go all gleeful when I think of the future hikes with a new pot and burner;)
ReplyDeleteOne more question that popped in my head: Do you think the inner "coal" needs to be replaced after some time?
Pssst..... Wanna buy a stove ;)
ReplyDeleteThanks Brian, glad to hear you enjoy the videos - I have some more costumes and alter egos to introduce soon!
To be, or not to be an actor, that is the question ;)
ReplyDeleteThanks Sanpo for the extra info, very interesting! Will need to try that, the different thermal power settings!
ReplyDeleteHahaha great vids!
ReplyDeleteLove the video, and love the look of the stove. Do I need another stove? hmm
ReplyDeleteThat is a nice little stove, i like a well made piece of equipment rather than some cheap chinese replica.
ReplyDeleteI do not have the time for alcohol stoves...
ReplyDeleteTo adapt a tagline from another popular backpacking blog: "There is no such thing as too many alcohol stoves" ;)
ReplyDeleteThen get a Backcountry Boiler!
ReplyDeleteHow can I get ahold of one of these? I am looking for something lighter to use in my Ti Clikstand. I don't like the Evernew Ti burner because it burns out too quickly and you can't save the fuel. This might be a nice alternative and I would love to try it out.
ReplyDeleteTry the link to Moonlight Gear in the article. The maker, Jun, is also on Twitter as @sanpo2 and you can contact him there as well if you want to do business directly with him. Paying via PayPal is possible (Moonlight Gear is also on Twitter, btw).
ReplyDeleteIt is not coal it is carbon fiber. It won't need to be replaced but it will shrink slightly after extended use. I've been using carbon fiber stoves for a while now and love them alot. No priming because the carbon fiber is self insulating (it's used in the plumbing industry to protect the wood framing from burning when sodering copper pipes together). Mini Bull Design has been using this stuff for a while now.
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